In an ideal world, these two trashing games which require either imagination, reading or (God forbid!) a manual, or which don’t fit the narrow range of games they breathlessly remind the listener they encourage their students to create, would just be the middle of the pack of Commodore 64 podcast media. But for production value, variety (despite skipping so many games which require reading!), and consistency, they’re the best of a shallow pool. Hope you like scatological references!